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  • sascha100
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    Hello Helmut,

    I have unfortunately no electronics experience. Can I implement the simple? Can you explain that to me I have nothing found (or not searched right)

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  • sascha100
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    Zitat von hismastersvoice Beitrag anzeigen
    Hello sascha100

    you´re wellcome...

    If your german is good enough reed this thread...
    https://www.loxforum.com/forum/faqs-...nstig-erweiten

    Also you can use photocoupler and Pokeys 57 to work with 24V+
    Hi,

    I am German but I found something in the English Forum.:-)

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  • Helmut
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    I have the pcb developed therefore, with a voltage converter works Pokeys with 12V or 24V.
    The inputs are protected by optocouplers and the outputs connected via transistor array relay the insurance compliant can be performed.
    Look out the insulation distances of your relay board:
    It is a possible voltage of 400 Volts available
    if you do a normal backup allocation to 3 phases.

  • hismastersvoice
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    Hello sascha100

    you´re wellcome...

    If your german is good enough reed this thread...
    https://www.loxforum.com/forum/faqs-...nstig-erweiten

    Also you can use photocoupler and Pokeys 57 to work with 24V+

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  • sascha100
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    Hello hismastersvoice,

    thank you for your repeated hint on KMTronic. THANK YOU
    I've ordered the same times and it functions perfectly in a small test assembly. Thanks also for your How to do it.

    One question I have: there is an alternate to Pokeys 57? It runs in my test setup but I am not so happy with the 5V.

    thank you

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  • killeriq
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    I've found this guide how to use/control via UDP from Loxone:
    http://www.nikolaus-lueneburg.de/201...kommunikation/

    Its mainly for the Arduino, but im sure it can be modified for the WEB Relay module
    Is someone wants to do it via arduino here are next guides:

    http://www.nikolaus-lueneburg.de/201...kommunikation/
    http://www.nikolaus-lueneburg.de/201...d-analogwerte/

    But its only in German

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  • hismastersvoice
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    I'll use the RS485 Version of the KMTronic...
    Why...

    - less Standby-Consumption as the LAN Version
    - 10A Relais instead of 5A from the Arduino Relais-Board
    - easy to control it with the Loxone MS
    - Price... Yes you need an additional Ext RS485, but if you need 6,7... Boards it make sense because of the cheaper price of each board.

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  • sascha100
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    Hello,

    I hope this is the right place otherwise please delete.

    I'm new here and start with my Loxone Project. I have quite a lot of outputs I would like to use this board. I am connected and can configure it. Can anyone tell me how I can address the outputs in the Loxone?

    Thank you in advance
    Zuletzt geändert von sascha100; 21.Mär.2016, 20:27.

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  • killeriq
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    PoLabs its in Slovenia (former Yugoslavia), not Slovakia , but ive check it and seems really good device to try.
    Ive checked also you page, i do understand some german but its bit hard the tech stuff for me.

  • killeriq
    kommentierte die Antwort eines Gastes.
    denkovi is basicaly boxed version or relays ive posted in 1st post, just in a DIN rail box...also the price is 2-3x higher
    Way of controlling those relays will be the same via LAN - WebServer

    cheapest option ive found is this one:
    50eur - all in one: http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Netwo...445111124.html

    or 16x relay (13eur) + Lan Module (WebServer) (10eur)
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/171764679322...84.m1436.l2649
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/371368344640...84.m1436.l2649 - they have 8 and 16 relay module u need to ask

    Only disadvantage is there is no DIN relay box

  • pavsedl
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    Yes, that is right - you can see the pictuer here: http://www.sedtronic.cz/cz_pripojeni-k-loxone,82.html

  • Gast-Avatar
    Ein Gast antwortete
    Hi everyone,

    I'm currently in the process of planning my installation with Loxone... I was also looking for some alternative relays, but my req was that it could fit in the main electrical panel... This is what I've found:

    http://denkovi.com/smartden-lan-ethe...e-din-rail-box

    They can be used with http and snmp and I think they should work together with Loxone...

    Cheers,
    Nick

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  • Luk27
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    Hi, so to be clear, you can connect Railduino directly to a Loxone Modbus extension, not to a Loxone RS485 extension, correct?

  • Helmut
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    Hi, you doesn't look at Polabs in Slovenia ? Why not with Pokeys57E.
    The module has up to 55 inputs and / or outputs.
    In addition, there may be a number of analog or digital sensors, and and

    Please look at PoLabs site here

    http://www.poscope.com/PoKeys57E

    http://www.poscope.com/image/cache/d...o-1200x800.png

    and look at my site here

    https://helmutspokeysseite.wordpress.com/

    and look what can be done with it, all over Modbus TCP, xml-files and so on.
    Best regards, Helmut
    Zuletzt geändert von Helmut; 08.Mär.2016, 17:51. Grund: Land gewechselt ;-)

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  • pavsedl
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    Thanks Killeriq,

    well, yes, you are right - you can use two different ways to connect to my module - RS485 or LAN - using Modbus protocol. There are very important differences between them - RS485 is much faster, reliable but not for long distances. LAN is much slower, usually using more network components (can lead to not so reliable comm.), but can be used for long distances (all over the world). My recommendation is to use serial RS485 connection.

    The other thing is communication protocol - Modbus is safer, reliable.. UDP protocol is not so safe (no CRC check ..) so you must note this when using these relay boards you mentioned..

    So when using Loxone Modbus extension you can connect to Railduino module and use it as a IO module with features described in post earlier.

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