Schaltschrank: 230V AC linker oder rechter site?

[Gast]

Hallo allen,

(translated from NL to DE)

Ich habe die meisten Bilder der Installation Schränke mit Loxone die DIN-rail beginnend mit einem Netzteil, gefolgt von einem Loxone Miniserver gesehen. Ich lese noch Loxone empfehlen 230V AC rechts in den Schrank.

Das bedeutet, Sie 230V AC ganz von rechts nach links durch das Kabinett lassen sollte gehen, wo Sie zweifellos Niederspannungskabel kreuzt?

Ist es nicht besser, die 230VAC links in den Schrank zu montieren?

Translated from English in Deutsch

Das meiste Bild, das ich bei Installationsschränken gesehen habe, beginnt die DIN-Schiene mit einer Stromversorgung, gefolgt vom Loxone-Miniserver. Ich habe jedoch gelesen, dass Loxone empfiehlt, die 230V an der rechten Seite des Schaltschranks zu installieren, was bedeutet, dass der 230V-Wechselstrom den ganzen Weg von rechts nach links durchlaufen muss.

Ist es nicht besser, den 230-V-Wechselstrom an der linken Seite des Schaltschranks zu montieren und daher die Niederspannungsleitungen möglichst gering zu halten?

[Gast]

Let my answer in english, hope it will it make it easier for you, even if it will not be that easy like discussing with Netherlands people for you:

It is up to you! Loxone recommend multiple own concepts how they would install ther technics. For example I know the Loxone "standard" far touch inputs but I have developed my "own" standard which fits better to the personal preference of my family and my own.
Same for the layout of your cabinet! I use the outer left column for the input from public power supply and minimal classic installation to provide some power outlets and light in the room where the cabinet is mounted.
in the right of them I have all the 230V components, starting on the top with the patch panels for the wires followed by fuses and RCDs below. The right two columns are my “low voltage area”. Loxone, KNX, DMX, doorbell and so on. For me this was the best option to have less 230V wires as possible crossing the low voltage area. At the end the 230 supply power comes from left to a row of loxone components direct to the outputs. So, at the end I have juts horizontal 230V wires in the loxone section. All the vertical wiring is arranges only in the correct area (230V most left, 24V most right).

Another idea is to arrange the 24 V components below the 230 V components with the wire panels on top. At the end it depends on the available space, amount and type of the components you have to install. Do not hesitate to violate “Loxones standards” ;-)

[Christian Fenzl]

Most important is to keep space on the left side of the Miniserver. This usually can be done, placing the MS as first device on the rail (and not the 24VDC power supply most left).
This is, as you remove the rail cover of the cabinet, you should have enough space to handle the microsd card.
A better option is to directly buy a microsd-card extender cable, and possibly together with a microsd-card-extender-cable-dinrail-casing (this one https://www.loxforum.com/forum/hardw...sie-defekt-ist)

[Gast]

Thanks for your input. I do not have a Loxone miniserver yet, but I'm preparing the cabinet (on the first floor) with electrical power for the devices/extensions etc. The empty pipes that can be used to connect to the electrical sockets/switches and ceiling (decke) are ending in this cabinet from the bottom and top.
My normal electrical cabinet is situated on the ground floor and I'm able to connect those two cabinets via a false ceiling in the toilet and a 5cm hole (Domotica cabinet is above the toilet on the ground floor)

Currently our house is wired as a regular house with power lines running from the electrical cabinet on the ground floor to electrical boxes in the ceilings (centralbox)and from there to wall sockets, switches and other "centralboxes".

I'm not planning to completely rewire our house but want to use the current wires as part of the domotica system. Because the different groups used in the house, I have to add these groups in my domotica cabinet also if I switch lights and electrical sockets from those particular groups.

Because I only need the fase wires (L) I could bring only 4 wires (of 4 groups) to my domotica cabinet (each by its own double isolated cable), the N is already in place through the regular wiring, just as earth for the electrical wall sockets.
But do not know if this is allowed. I know this is a question that is very much depending on the rules in each country, but perhaps you have experience with this?